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Re: ready to date

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:22 am
by sky
Okay. Accepting that I like girls, get me out of comphet. Without meeting people right now, I’m not comfortable with it. Going to a bar and just being around them, maybe I can do but not right now. So don’t suggest meeting people until I feel i am ready, please.

That’s where I would like to start, getting out of comphet mindset because doing some research I realize that is a big thing for me that I never noticed was until yesterday.

Also- no one and I mean no one can answer that post in moderation with what I expressed about manual/oral etc with different genitals involved. That stresses me out because it makes me feel like I have a point and I’m right, and if I’m right about that what else am I right about regarding all of this.

Re: ready to date

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:49 am
by Heather
I'm just going to be frank and say that what you said in that last post was misinformed and misguided. Over the years, I have shared quite a few pieces on the site with you that explain that the reason we feel sexual sensation in any body parts and in the whole of our bodies is actually about our nervous systems, not our genitals, which are what make it so that we can feel anything, anywhere, not the parts that our nervous systems innervate (that they make have sensation). You don't have a point, and you are profoundly wrong, not right, in the things you said, but I have also tried and tried and tried with you and your beliefs around that, and I don't feel that at this point in time, there's anything I can do to disavail you of what you insist on believing instead of the actual facts. Facts and experience are what we have to offer you with those kinds of questions, and time and time again, you have refused to believe either of those things, so when it comes to all that stuff, I think we simply have to accept that we have done all we can for you around that for you, and I need you to accept that for now, too.

Before we move forward, I want to clarify what you are saying here and get a little more information.

I hear you saying you want to start by talking about two things: how you can accept that you have romantic and sexual interest in women, and how you can change your mind when it comes to beliefs you have based in compulsory heterosexuality.

What I don't see an answer to is what kind of help you are willing to accept, and that's what I need next. I hear you say you are NOT open to is meeting anyone (and I assume by that you mean other queer people). But I don't see anything to tell me what kind of help you ARE open to.

Here are the kinds of help we could offer you with these two things, in case you need to see the options to know what they are. We can:
  • Offer you information about both of these things that is here on the site, at other places online, or in other media, like in books or films.
  • Have the kinds of conversations here with you about comphet that are also going to be okay for other people reading (to be clear, what we cannot do is have you post a bunch of stuff that's ultimately anti-gay and mythbust it, because this needs to be a place where other queer people can come without having to look at that stuff).
  • Suggest ways that you can work on changing your mindset: we can't "get you out of comphet." Only you can do that, but we can -- as I have in the past -- give you things to do so that *you* can work on that.
  • Suggest conversations you can have with your therapist to help with both of these things.
  • Help you find other therapeutic support and resources to help with these things. For instance, if your current therapist isn't themselves LGBTQ and doesn't center on helping LGBTQ people, then it may be you need some additional therapeutic help.

Re: ready to date

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:19 am
by Heather
Again, Sky, I see the long post in the queue, but you're right, I need you to answer what I have asked instead of spinning out on more tangents and provocations, and I also am going to ask you again to please not leave a bunch of posts in the queue that are outside limits we have set. Just because I or others don't approve it doesn't mean it doesn't still ask our time and energy to read and review it.

If and when you want to actually work on this stuff with us, you can circle back and answer the last things I have asked -- and have taken the time to present for you -- and I am others are glad to work on them with you. But we can't work together if you won't actually do your part of that.

Re: ready to date

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:14 am
by sky
Heather I sent you an email regarding some LGBTQ therapy I think you’re talking about?

Re: ready to date

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:06 pm
by Heather
I've responded to you about that particular query there, but now let's keep this here when you are ready to let us know which ways of accepting help you are open to right now.