Freaking out after past assault

Questions and discussion about sexual or other abuse or assault, and support and help for survivors.
Forum rules
This area of the boards is expressly for support and help for those who are currently in or have survived abuse or assault. It is also for those seeking information or discussion about abuse or assault. Please make every effort in this space to be supportive and sensitive. Posts in this area may or do describe abuse or assault explicitly.

This area of the boards is also not an area where those who are themselves abusing anyone or who have abused or assaulted someone may post about doing that or seek support. We are not qualified to provide that kind of help, and that also would make a space like this feel profoundly unsafe for those who are being or who have been abused. If you have both been abused and are abusing, we can only discuss harm done to you: we cannot discuss you yourself doing harm to others. If you are someone engaging in abuse who would like help, you can start by seeking out a mental healthcare provider.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Hey, I've been talking to a therapist and I have decided to work through my trauma of past relationships but my therapist is on vacation for now and I really would need some advice.

My new boyfriend and I have a very good relationship and we both love and respect each other a lot. However when it comes to sexual things, I often freak out during or after likely due to unresolved ptsd. An ex assaulted me while I was half asleep and tried to coerce me to have sex with him. Now I always freak put when there a some little mistakes; my boyfriend will always stop when I tell him to, I can always change my mind and stop us doing sexual stuff when I'm uncomfortable and he will be very understanding and is treating it like no big deal. I feel very comfortable with him due to this. He also moves at the pace I need and usually always asks before he does something to me, if it is okay. Lately I have been feeling better about sexual things and we have stopped asking little things like touching each other's back, belly or kissing while keeping asking for permission for actual sex acts, breasts and genitalia.

Why I am freaking out atm is because last night we were sexual together and he had his head on my chest, in motion when I wasn't feeling it any more so I asked him to stop. When I said it though, I thought to myself "well that came out quieter than I intended" and he didn't stop so I said it again, louder and a little panicked. He immediately stopped and apologized and said he didn't hear me before. I actually didn't feel violated by this because I really trust him and he always makes sure I am okay. Today we got frisky again and he asked to touch my chest but because of last night I felt uncomfortable and said no. Later I removed my shirt for him because I wanted him to see my chest (he didn't pressure me into this, I genuinely like it when he sees me like this) but I still only wanted him to watch, not touch.

I think he misread the gesture as me wanting him to touch me so he was positioning his hands on my sides but before he did something I said "no touch please" and he didn't proceed and only looked, like I had wanted. We made out a bit and a couple minutes later her was joking around and then asking me if he could touch my chest. I said no and ended things there because I got really triggered. When my ex and I met, he would always ask multiple times if I could undress for him and I always said no until he made me feel so guilty that I eventually gave up and just did it. I didn't feel particularly good but he back then said he thought if a woman says no, you have to try harder and she wants to be convinced which is stupid. When I ended the session with my new boyfriend today, he immediately was okay with that. He wasn't cranky, didn't sulk, just said "okay yeah let's get dressed" and smiled at me.

I later talked to him about what happened because I was freaking out and he was worried about me, so I told him what triggered me and he said he thought that throughout the making out, people could change their minds and that's why he asked. Now I'm really scared he is like my ex although I think a lot is also my possible ptsd. It's been a couple hours, I already feel better but I'm still scared what this means for my relationship. Can I trust him? I do think it was just a mistake yesterday but today triggered me a lot so now I'm scared I'm missing something. Is this question innocent if nonverbal acts seem to indicate a change of mind? Or is repeating a question always coercion?
CaitlinEve
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 92
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:54 pm
Age: 22
Pronouns: they/them
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Illinois

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by CaitlinEve »

Hey phenolphtalein,

I'm so sorry to hear that you're having trouble with your triggers. I would recommend, if you're comfortable with it, discussing this again with your partner as the only person who can tell you what he thinks is him. Your communication is very important to maintaining a healthy relationship and your own mental health, and I'm glad that you feel comfortable discussing your anxiety and triggers with him. That being said, your anxiety and triggers are completely valid and it's good that you can recognize what they stem from. I would say that repeating a question is not always coercion, and his reaction to you ending the session is a good sign. However, the only opinion that really matters on this and your feelings is your own and if you're feeling unsafe and uncomfortable that's okay too.

Are there any resources or specific advice we can offer you, or just a place to speak and be heard while your therapist is on vacation? We're here for you!
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

We have discussed it already but sometimes I need a lot of reassurance. I also suffer from OCD which gets triggered by my freaking out. I just feel like I cannot trust my own judgment because I have been gaslighted in my past relationships and lost the confidence in my gut feeling. My new boyfriend is nothing but sweet to me and always makes sure to move at my pace. He knows about my past. I guess my main question is actually; how do I heal from my past? There are a lot of resources for recognizing sexual violence but not enough to help with struggling survivors, at least I can't find any. Usually articles on the internet just say that people found a new partner and magically everything disappeared, they healed and went on to live their lives. I am not like that despite my new boyfriend providing a lot of safe spaces and taking me seriously, reassuring me. I can't just flip a switch. Do you have any resources on that?
Sofi
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 474
Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:23 pm
Awesomeness Quotient: I make my own nail art!
Primary language: Spanish or English
Pronouns: she/they
Sexual identity: Queer
Location: USA

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sofi »

Hi phenolphtalein, I hope it's okay that I jump in. I wanna start by saying it's okay that right now you need a lot of reassurance, it's valid and makes sense, and I'm glad he is gentle and gives that to you. Being able to openly communicate about our traumas is extremely important in a relationship, so it sounds like you're on a great track. It's normal for us to still get triggered even though our new partner makes us feel safe. Healing from traumatic events is not a linear process, so some days you might feel more comfortable and other days you might get triggered, and that's okay.
We actually have a super helpful series on here that I think will help. You can read it here: AFTERSHOCKS: THE PHYSICAL EFFECTS OF SEXUAL TRAUMA
Let me know if it did or you have any thoughts you want to share or questions!
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Thank you for the resources! Would it be possible to chat during the chat times today? I think I'd need someone to talk to
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

Hi phenolphtalein,

What times are you available to chat today? Too, if there ends up not being a good time for us to open it to meet with you today, it's open for its usual Friday hours tomorrow.
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

I would be free now if that works?
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

It does, if you're still available!
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Yes, I am
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

It's open!
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

Here's the link if you need it: https://chat.scarleteen.com/index.php/chat/start
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Could you perhaps please open the chat again and repeat your message? My internet was gone before I could read it and I'm freaking out rn
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

Open!
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Hi, I need some more advice on something but I don't want to share the details on the message boards since the story isn't mine to tell but it triggered me today and Idk what to do atm. What can I do to stop freaking out? Do you have any resources? How can I stop my mind from fearing the worst?
CaitlinEve
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 92
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:54 pm
Age: 22
Pronouns: they/them
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Illinois

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by CaitlinEve »

Hey phenolphtalein,

I'm sorry to hear that you're having a hard time!

That's a fair reason to not want to share details on the message board. Unfortunately, as it's Sunday, the live chat function isn't online as those who run it aren't on shift. However, it will be online tomorrow from 10am to 1pm PST (for reference, this response is being sent at 6:30pm PST Sunday). If you can elaborate on your anxiety/triggers, I could potentially provide support and resources to get you through to when live chat opens, however!
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Hi, I wanted to know if I'm too late for the live chat because I would like to talk again
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

Nope! Chat is on for about another two hours.
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Hi, could you perhaps open the chat a little earlier today?
Sam W
scarleteen staff/volunteer
Posts: 10270
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
Age: 33
Awesomeness Quotient: I raise carnivorous plants
Primary language: english
Pronouns: she/her
Sexual identity: queer
Location: Coast

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by Sam W »

Hi phenolphtalein,

Would you be able to plan on coming in at 10:30 am PST?
And you to whom adversity has dealt the final blow/with smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go/turn to and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain/and like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again.
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

I can try!
phenolphtalein
not a newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 am
Age: 22
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Central Europe

Re: Freaking out after past assault

Unread post by phenolphtalein »

Sorry, I can't make it. I probably will join at regular times
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post